is over $250,000 is quote unquote, rich? why not 300,000? why not 500? why not 107,000? he just made up a number. it doesn't have any bearing on anything. >> brian: there is a lot of people in business like yourself who just want things solved. could they feel good about what they've learned the details of the president's plan or the first piece in the puzzle of negotiation is? >> i don't think so because everybody throws up, i want this, you know, and they ask for the biggest thing they can. the stupid part about this is there was a study done, we know about it called simpson bowles, the president appointed it. it was a commission done. they worked on everything. nobody refers to it. nobody uses it as a basis. senator corker from tennessee has a 200, 300 page, somewhere in there package which it outlines everything. they say oh, we haven't heard anything from anybody. it's all you know, bs. it's terrible.